What you are supposed to know about your ZF6HP26, 6HP19, 6HP28 and similar ford Transmissions.
It applies to all BMW, Jaguar, Bentley, Rolls Royce, Maserati, Audi and others with ZF 6HP26, 6HP19, 6HP28
In this post i will be explaining why you have transmission issues like:
-harsh shift 2-1
-not able to shift into park when hot
-weak torque feeling
-gear speed ratio faults
-other faults
All highlighted problems you can experience even on low miles cars less than 70-80k, it depends on at what speeds your car mostly runs. On the highway this tranny will easily last 200-300kmls. AND EVERYTHING IS RELATED TO VALVE BODY PRESSURE LOSS DUE TO SOLENOIDS OR ACTUAL VALVE BODY SEALING GASKETS LEAKING INSIDE, BUT BETTER DO BOTH. DRIVING WITH LEAKING VALVE BODY WILL EVENTUALLY WEAR OUT ACTUAL TRANSMISSION HARDWARE.
BEST ADVICE FOR YOU: SINCE 99% issues with this trannies are related to valve body fluid pressure loss, I strongly recommend new (re manufactured) valve body from ZF (expensive 1600$), (you can find some companies offer this rebuild, but they charge almost new VB price, or rebuild it yourself with NEW SOLENOIDS PACK (300-400$) and SONNAX zip kit (150$). If after you rebuilt or replaced valve body and RESET ADAPTATIONS USING BMW SOFTWARE INPA OR ISTA IS A MUST, OR YOU WON’T SEE ANY DIFFERENCE AFTER REBUILT, BECAUSE TCM KNOWS VALVE BODY PRESSURE VALUES AND THEY MUST BE RESET. IF AFTER REBUILT, it’s not shifting well, it means YOU WAITED TOO LONG WITH VALVE BODY REBUILT AND DESTROYED transmission hardware (bushings or actual clutches failed) and you need to rebuild it, but like i said main problem STARTS at valve body and then if not fixed in time you get worn out transmission. All those jolts, bumps or harsh shifts cause premature wear and tear on your tranny. Rule of the thumb is not to drive it if it jerks,or shifts wrong.
replacing just solenoids without rebuilding valve body, where accumulators/pistons always go bad after 60-70k, will not get you perfect results, but might improve shifting quality. Remember-cheap people usually pay twice (no offense).
So you hate the way tranny shifts and dealer and other shops didn’t find any faults and told youit is what it is and this is how it is intended to work! Well it is total lie they are trying to get rid of you with.
In fact ZF 6HP26 6hp19, 6hp28 is a very good transmission, powerful, bullet proof pretty much if serviced in time and proper fluid pressure maintained! This tranny is still considered one of the best and has carbon clutches vs cheap paper ones you can find on Japanese cars. But this tranny has very serious and very
important weak spots you have to take care of:
-First thing first check tranny temperatures. If it is higher than 95C, then most likely you have a problem with tranny cooling system or your engine cooling has some leaks causing running it very hot.
Usually high temps indicate following:
1) engine cooling system problem- air bauble or airlock
2) if everything is good with cooling system, check your tranny oil cooler- it gets clogged up pretty often and also indicates that some clutches or TC clutch is worn out and that debris clogged oil cooler.
3) worn out TC clutch slipping overheating transmission fluid.
Your good engine temps are 103-105C and if it climbs to 107-110C in traffic, it means you’ve got a leak :
-lower radiator hose sensor leaking (usually shows a white residue around the sensor)
-valley pan under intake
-rear cover plate between tranny and engine. Very common after 100k or 8-10yrs.
-coolant tank cracked
-radiator cap leaking pressure
-coolant pipe seal leaking
-other cooling issues
It is very important to keep temps in specs not only because of few degrees, but because with leaking
cooling system you lose coolant pressure introducing air in the system, causing uneven cooling and overheating both engine and tranny. Good OEM specs are 103-105 cycle when idling and lower hose should be hot around 60-80C. When you drive it tstat is controlled by ECU therefore it keeps it cool on the freeway.
Easy way to test your cooling system
1) Disconnect aux pump connector assuming aux pump is working (they fail often)
2) Drive your car to warm engine well
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- Turn on heater on hot but low speed
- check if you get hot air from vents for 10 minutes.
- If after a minute you noticed your heater is not hot anymore, it means you’ve got a leak!
- This Engine has self bleeding cooling system, which means you cannot get air pocket if system is well sealed.
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So if engine temps are good and tranny still runs hot 100-110, it means heat exchanger is clogged with tranny clutches, TC wear and tear dirt. Replace it and check if it got better. This tranny will die quick if temps are not good.
–MECHATRONIC ADAPTER SEAL.
This adapter (number 2) usually lasts only 60-70kmls (BMW lifetime). Replace it every 60kmls even if tranny shifts well. It is very important because it keeps your mechatronic valve body under specified pressure therefore it controls how clutches are pressed! Which means if your gasket is weak your tranny clutches are not pressing well on each other causing premature wear and tear, also tranny pump and TC clutch will be affected. This square seal also can CRACK, in this case you will get tranny fail safe errors and even clutches slipping ERRORS, causing very quick TRANNY DEATH. DON’T DRIVE YOUR CAR IF YOU’RE GETTING ANY TRANNY FAULTS, EVEN AFTER RESTART TRANNY ERRORS GO AWAY FOR A WHILE, IT IS NOT A TRANNY COMPUTER GLITCH!!!
http://www.thectsc.com/products/mechatronic-seal-adapter-6hp26-6hp28-6hp32-42-52.html
YES THIS SMALL, CHEAP GASKET CAN DAMAGE YOUR TRANSMISSION PRETTY BAD.
-OTHER 4 RUBBER PIPE SEALS.
They 5,6,7 also control clutch pressure, but even if they are flattened pretty bad transmission won’t give you any errors. Its always good idea to replace it- you’ll notice a difference how your tranny shifts. Online retailers has these seals under transmission parts section.
–SOLENOID KITS. 2 TYPES
-MOST COMMON E65, YOU DON’T NEED PARKING SOLENOIDS SINCE THEY DON’T GO BAD OFTEN, SO YOU CAN USE M-SHIFT SOLENOIDS, BUT YOU CAN GET E-SHIFT PACK AS WELL, WHICH IS 200$ MORE.
http://www.thectsc.com/products/solenoid-kit-6hp19/26/32-m-shift-36-45.html
Yes they go bad and are not simple solenoids you used to know from old school trannies. Now these are pressure regulators and they do not only work open\close operation, they control pressure and after so me time they get clogged, overheat, etc. So if your tranny temps are good and your tranny shifts hard, it could be your solenoids. Its good idea to replace them every 100k, because they control everything in the tranny. You will be surprised how tranny shifts with new solenoids. And you don’t need 2 parking solenoids, so you can use 200$ cheaper kit, which fits 5,6 series without E-SHIFT. Also dont be scared if you open your transmision and find out that color is not the same- relax it changed color because of temps and age. There are two types of kitsAll the parts at very good prices can be found here:
http://www.thectsc.com/catalog/mechatronic-parts-52.html
-GUIBO FLEX DISC. They usually go bad after BMW lifetime period 60-70k.
Common Symptoms:
a) hard 2-1 sift
b) at stop you can hear clunking when shifting from P-R-D
c)overall tranny shifting quality
-Tranny fluid level.
Yes due to leaking oil pan gasket you might loose some fluid. Always check tranny oil pan for leaks and tranny fluid level (use BMW sealed tranny fluid level check procedure). It is always better to install metal oil pan- it never leaks and cheaper to maintain!
You can add BMW OEM PENTOSIN brand fluid or you can use MOBIL1 or CASTROL synthetic ATF fluid (10$/qt) import multi vehicle formula, believe it or not it has same specs if not better than BMW fluid and works great. Tested for 160kmls. BMW will only recommend OEM FLUID of course, but its up to you, so please do not comment here that different than OEM fluid will kill the tranny. But always make sure it has the same specs of course. Mostly Dextron 6 fluid applies as well for this trannies.
UPDATE: TRANSMISSION RUNS MUCH BETTER WITH OEM ZF FLUID OR SHELL M1375.4 FLUIDS, SO BETTER SPEND FEW MORE BUCKS FOR CORRECT FLUID. FEBI OR ZF WILL WORK GREAT. SOME USE FORD FLUID, SINCE ITS THE SAME TRANSMISSION BUT FLUID IS MUCH CHEAPER.
-Torque converter clutch.
Yes it can go bad just like any clutch, because this tranny engages this clutch very early causing premature wear and tear. In sport mode it can engage clutch as early as at first gear!! That’s why we get decent mpg from this tranny. In other words it is more like a manual tranny with torque converter working only at very low speeds and low rpm. So I would not recommend driving it very aggressively in the city, unless you enjoy paying 4-5k for a new tranny. Don’t forget this tranny handles 300-400hp and some impressive torque. Driving in normal mode, TC can last up to 300kmls!!
most common symptoms of bad clutch:
-sometimes when clutch is very bad it will throw 1721 error clucth slip
-bad MPG. Without TC clutch your car is still driveable, but you can feel its very weak even though engine feels strong
-after 4th gear tachometer arrow is not steady
-weak pickups, downshifting when driving uphill
-bad slipping clutch will overheat tranny pump and finally will kill internal tranny parts (clucths, valve body, seals, etc)
good news you can have your TC rebuilt for around 300$ and from personal experience i must say its not as perfect as new, but decent still.
IMPORTANT NOTE: DON’T FORGET TO RESET TRANSMISSION ADAPTATIONS AFTER ANY REPAIR DONE ON THE TRANSMISSION!!! IF YOU DON’T RESET IT, TRANNY WON’T SHIFT ANY BETTER BECAUSE IT REMEMBERS BAD VALUES. SOME PPL THINK PRESSING GAS PEDAL AND SAYING SOME MAGIC WORDS RESETS TRANSMISSIONS EGS ADAPTATIONS IS A TOTAL MADE UP JOKE. YOU CAN ONLY RESET IT WITH BMW SOFTWARE INPA, ISTA, AND SOME OTHER SOFTWARE SNAP ON ETC.
I know its a long list of issues, but if you take care of your tranny every 80-100kmls it pays for itself pretty good. Most important thing for this tranny is correct fluid pressure and temps, other parts like clutches are very durable and made with highest quality standard. Don’t forget the same tranny they still install on newest Bentley, Rolls Royce, Audi, Maserati and other luxury brands. This tranny is way more reliable than Mercedes one or Lexus trannies with same specs. All transmission parts you can find here http://www.thectsc.com/catalog/6-speed-parts-113.html
I have a 6HP28 in a 335d and my upshifts seem sluggish. Lower gears mostly, hot or cold. No flaring, just seems to delay for a split second. I’ve been in two other cars that shift much crisper so I know it isn’t my imagination. Fluid/filter changed at 125k miles. Replaced fluid/filter, seals, solenoids, vb zip kit at 160k miles. This fixed a 3-4 gear flare, but shifting still not crisp. Currently at 166k miles. Never seen trans temp over 90. Reset my adaptations using my Foxwell scanner and did ZF procedure after. My current values:
A fill -4
B fill -237
C fill -326
D fill 56
E fill 100
Rapid A 24
Rapid B 8
Rapid C -17
Rapid D 0
Rapid E 36
Any thoughts?
Thank you
pretty good numbers
Thank you for your help,
2006 Jaguar xj 6hp26 trans, just replaced bridge and connector seal and replaced fluid with Ford Mercon SP. It solved the ‘clunky hard shift but lately sometimes, when I start the car, it won’t shift into reverse or drive unless I turn off ignition and turn it on. What do you think? I was even wondering if the shift cable needed adjustment.
not sure, not a magician. read errors first, solenoids kit is must plus reset
My 2009 BMW 520d Lci transmission works perfectly, except for when im cruising, my rev counter goes up and down and the car begins to shudder. Could the (square) seal between the mechatronic unit and the transmission have something to do with this?
TC clutch worn out
I have a 2006 RR HSE with 6HP26 . At 75k miles, trans had the roll out thump due to trans not downshifting to 1st before stopping. Then a solenoid failed and replaced valve body and solenoids with Sonnax unit. Worked perfectly with no roll out thump for 6 months then it came back. Tried resetting adaptations with GAP IID programmer and running factory driving procedure but never got rid of roll out thump. In order to make it live to 110K miles so far, I just come to a complete stop and make sure trans shifts down to 1st before accelerating again. Now it has developed a shutter from the torque converter at low speeds under moderate loads. Is there any device that can allow customer or independent shop to make software changes? BOTH of these issues could be permanently and easily fixed if we had access to the programming.
your TC is on the way…. clutch burned
So, is there any way to modify the software to keep this from happening again? No other vehicle I have ever owned started trying to lock the converter in 2nd gear and definitely not under any load, that’s just stupid.
I have 2009 bmw 535i xdrive
The transmission is popping into neutral while driving. It’s at the dealership and it’s not showing any codes. They can repeat the issue but just can’t get it throw any codes.
I have a custom tune setup using COBBS, would that possibly cause a problem with the transmission?
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks.
solenoids
Hello,
2011 bmw 335i x drive
when rebuilding the Mechatronic, do you have to do the transmission adaptation (with ISTA-d) before or after the rebuild?
Thank you
yes always
Thank you for all your insight – I have a 6HP28X and my clutch B fill pressure is -406mbar. It had a recent service and before that clutch B was also pretty high but I can’t recall the number. The bridge and clutch seals were replaced. It’s been a couple thousand miles since the service. Here are my current numbers:
A fill -8
B fill -406
C fill -51
D fill +196
E fill -52
Rapid A +8ms
Rapid B -18ms
Rapid C -5ms
Rapid D 0ms
Rapid E +34ms
I would appreciate any feedback you can muster based on this information.
its ok condition numbers, clutch D is a little high but nothing serious yet.
Hello,
I need to replace ZF6HP26 TCM & Valve Body in 2009 Jaguar XF 4.2 V8.
Can ZF6HP26 BMW replacement be programmed to suit the Jaguar?
i dont think so, ecu programmed for jaguar
Hi,
I have BMW E60 (5 Series) with ZF6HP19 tranny. When I undid the fill plug to top up the oil – I released about 1.5l of excess oil! Do you have any idea what could have caused this?
Many thanks,
Jonathan
when running??? if you released that oil when standing-PUT IT BACK ASAP when running!!! read about fluid level check
I bought the x5 with 100,00km on it. it went into limp mode almost right off the lot and they put a used tranny in to fix a problem with clutch e, resused the valve body and it seemed to fix everything.
I changed the fluid at 140000km. Now for the past 30,000km ive had an issue with the revs flaring up between 3/4 and 4/5 when the tranny gets above 85c.
It hasen’t got worse. I drive in sport mode and I don’t notice the flare up. Only in drive mode usually. It also pops out of reverse when over 85c as if its slipping into neutral. No CEL no limp mode, no codes for whats happening. I just had a mechatronics kit intstalled and i was going to do the solenoids but the mechanic said those basically never fail. installing the mech kit didnt change a thing with how the transmission behaves. It still flares up between 3/4 and 4/5 and slip’s out of reverse. I took it to a transmission shop and they said I’d have to rebuilt the entire tranny. They’ve never seen it pop of of reverse under load like mine. On flat surfaces it’s okay but on hills it can pop almost every time. Thoughts?
they fail all the time, find another tech